Fifteen Wii Remotes Could Work with One Wii

Can the Wii work with more than four remotes? I know back when the Wii was out for at least two weeks a friend of mine, Jeff, connected his Wii-mote to a Mac owned by another friend, Mark. They did this for, I guess, what you would call “a lightsaber simulator” that sent lightsaber noises to the Wii-mote’s speaker after the remote was waved around. I noticed that after the Wii remote and Mark’s Mac established a connection both the first and fourth light were on, but without either the second or third light on.

I recently contacted Mark, to replicate the result he previously had with Jeff’s remote and his mac, and he sent me back some pictures after connecting his Wii remote to his Mac with DarwiinRemote. The pictures he sent me had combinations including 2+3+4,, 2+3, 2+4, 3+4, and 1+3.

There is a 15 combinations that the 4 lights could make, including: “* – – – , – * – – , – – * – , – – – * , * – – * , * – * – , * * – – , – * * – , – * – * , – – * * , * * * – , * * – * , – * * * , * * * * , * – * *.”

Could the Wii-mote be assigned an identification other that the four remote configuration we have now? The answer is yes, but the real question is “could the Wii support more than the four known to be possible?” I believe the answer to that is also yes. Why else would the Wii remote even be capable of have these light combinations, unless Nintendo had intentions of the Wii support more than four players.

15 possible combinations, That would top the PS3’s Seven Sixaxis maximum.I know 15 players on screen in most cases would be pure chaos, but in games like Mario Party or any “party” game for that matter this many controllers I guess could be a big step up. Anyways, I remember hearing that the PS3 would have an odd number of seven players to be playable at once and then hearing the Wii would only support four like their last to systems. “Could the Nintendo Wii one day see more than four players?”; I think so.

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49 Responses to “Fifteen Wii Remotes Could Work with One Wii”

  1. MadThor says:

    Wiimote and Sixaxis are bluetooth, bluetooth can only have 7 devices connected at the same time to a host (PS3, Wii, PC, Phone …)
    bottom of the page : Connections
    “Data-only: When communicating data, a host can manage connections with up to seven guests”

    “Could the Nintendo Wii one day see more than four players?”
    If Nintendo want it. But never more than 7 player.

  2. MadThor says:

    Du to a technical limitation of Bluetooth Wii can’t have more than 7 wiimote connected at the same time.

  3. Kuefler says:

    Oh, that’s interesting. Thought I doubt Nintendo would, or could go this route, but “up to 255 further” “devices can be inactive, or parked, which the master device can bring into active status at any time”.

  4. Bryan says:

    I do recall Bust a Move Bash showing 8 players on the back cover

  5. adrian says:

    Perhaps it was just easier to wire the controller up that way, in that the lights just displayed a certain bit in 1 half byte.

    So it would be one value to set , instead of 4.

    Agreed though that the bluetooth should allow them to connect 3 more.

  6. Kuefler says:

    In response to Bryan, Bust a Move Bash uses attachments like nunchuks or classic controllers for players 5-8.

  7. Marc says:

    Of course, you can also use the GameCube controller ports concurrently with the Wii Remotes. TG16 games do it for some of their 5 player games. So 7 Bluetooth + 4 GC controllers = 11 people. Well, we’ll get 8 at least.

  8. Sam says:

    The reason there are 4 different lights is so that each one represents 1 of the four ports nintendo has set up for the Wiimotes to connect to the Wii. I’m afraid taht just because there are 15 different ways to turn them on does not mean that you can plug in 15 different Wiimotes.

  9. Kuefler says:

    Sam, I fail to see you logic.

    The fact that there is “15 different ways to turn them on” is certainly an indication that expansion of (or even Implementation of an increase) of the number of controller inputs is possible.

  10. romulobr says:

    I agree with Sam, rhis is all very interesting but doesn´t mean much at all. Bluetooth can connect to 7 devices, thats cool and we know that.
    There is no indication that the wii is capable of that. I dont know the bluetooth especification, but does it states that the hardware MUST support 7 devices, or does it just says it is capable of? And other thing, with seven wiimotes connnected, wouldn´t there be any bandwidth problems for the wii. I heard that the SD port of the Wii is the cheapest one and does no support Bigger than 2GB cards. Isn´t it possible that nintendo for cutting costs decided to use some kind of cheap bluetooth device? I think thats what we should answer now so we would really have something.

    Whoever did this experiment have done a very great job, and I think somone who really understands bluetooth and maybe electronics and those specifications should be able to definetely tell us if the wii is capable of that or not.

    Other interesting thing I was thinking. In theory, is it possible that nintendo allow the wii photo channel to receive photos via bluetooth? That would be really cool. Specially later when a homebrew scene start to grow.

  11. Ali says:

    WWOWWW, ok the Wii is not bluetooth its infared hence the stupid IR bar ….WOWWWWWW you guys r slow

  12. […] 15 Wiimotes conectados simultaneamente em um Wii! O_o Publicado Junho 6th, 2007 Wii , Nintendo Um experimento realizado pela equipe do blog Game Influence, sugere a possibilidade de que mais de 4 controles Wiimotes possam ser conectados ao Nintendo Wii simultaneamente. Os experimentos foram feitos conectando o controle do Wii a um Mac, e foi percebido que não apenas uma das luzes que indicam o número do jogador acendeu, e sim várias combinações diferentes delas. […]

  13. Metacore says:

    That joke is old. You… You are joking, right?

    This is not only a moot point, but this “discovery” wasn’t made by you, but by the people who frikin’ wrote the software you are using. In fact, get a PC! Then you would have known there were 15 different bits that activated the LEDs. (or at least a program for the OS X that let’s you write scripts)

    Also, you should know the bluetooth standard is 7.

    I don’t see how you CAN’T understand this. There are four LEDs, there for, four players tops. Forget the hardware(especially since I doubt they expect players to understand this binary style signal. Maybe they might use 3-4 pairs of wiimotes, each having the same led on) The combinations are probably just there for debugging, or just for the hell of it(easier to send one packet instead of four, to each remote).

    Stupid bloggers, insinuating stupid stuff… Not even doing the research… I wouldn’t have cared so much, it’s just the way you take credit for this… Even though you are using software made by someone else, it’s pretty clear it’s the software maker’s discovery.

    If you can’t understand this, you should just stick to using the wiimote on the Wii, and nothing else.

    yeah, cause Nintendo would have hated if the secret information that you could buy more of their $40 controllers(which they make a profit on as well) to use on the console marketed for party games, got out. You are all geniuses.

  14. Kuefler says:

    I never claimed it was a discovery of mine, all I was really saying was that these light possibilities, supported a theory that more Wii-motes could be supported.

    I keep reading your guys comments that try to debunk a possibilities of more than 4 Wii remotes, but none of you give any definitive arguments, only arguments that merely suggest that it is not possible, all I’m suggesting that it may be possible. In actuality, I don’t believe the Wii will every support more than 4 remotes in the way described in the article, I was merely thinking of the possibilities.

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  16. farstrider says:

    mabe the wii can if the have a blue tooth module that has more than one antenna sort of like bluetooth N

  17. Sim says:

    remember that the wiimotes each have multiple devices; the control; accross three axes, the speaker, and the memory. Even if they can connect via bluetooth (which for the benefit of Ali, who himself seems a little slow, is used; the ir is used for locating the position of the wiimote, as the accelerometers inside can only detect relative movement).

    Thats a lot of information to process in real time!

  18. Kuefler says:

    remember that the wiimotes each have multiple devices; the control; accross three axes, the speaker, and the memory. Even if they can connect via bluetooth (which for the benefit of Ali, who himself seems a little slow, is used; the ir is used for locating the position of the wiimote, as the accelerometers inside can only detect relative movement).

    Thats a lot of information to process in real time!

    I’m not going to spend to much time on this, but think about this. 7 Wiimotes on Mario Kart vs. 4 Wii-motes + 4 Nunchuck on a fps, which do you think requires more width in terms of input?

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